Carnea giganteus (Carneg-g) = spanische saguaro

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Vergleich: [Cor-r + Mus (= vor viele Tieren/Insekten Lebensgrundlage/viele Kreaturen sind abhängig von Carne-g und Querc zerstören ihr)].

Siehe: Caryophylalles + Mütterliche Gruppe

 

Negativ: A. Konflikt mit Authoritäten (entsprechend Adolescens)/fühlt sich unfrei/rebelliert/ist gegen Familie, Kultur, Tradition, krampfende Schmerz, Jucken, verfroren;

State of philosophical detachment # anxieties about intrusion.

    Delusion: Out of body.

    Delusions: Criticized. Danger. Persued.

    Dream, as if in.

    Excitement. Exhilaration.

    Starting. Irritable. Malicious. Violent.

Sensation: Headache, pounding, with needles;

[Rowe] Central idea: being attacked/intruded on (at home) = “As if coming from the upper l. hand corner”, will not be hurt if I defend myself in the right way. When one is not protected, there are feelings of anxiety/

edginess/fear.

The saguaro has many animals living within its body [insects/birds/bats (fertilise)/rodents]. (“Cactus Hotel” depicting the life of the cactus and all the animals that use it as their home). Recurrent theme of others depending on

them during the proving (manifest as friendly characters/animals turning into those that are sinister/dark).

Much of the deterioration noted in the proving occurred in the home. „As if no one else takes notice or responsibility“ about the mess/decline and that you are the only one who can handle it + anger. The animals that

utilize the saguaro cause destruction and deterioration of the tissue (can result in its death). Also, the saguaro can mend itself with the formation of hard callouses, which is the reverse side of this.

Water: The situation of the Saguaro cactus is that they provide one of the very few places in the desert where water is attainable. All other creatures of the desert need this for survival and attempt to obtain this.

“As if coming from the upper l. hand corner”.

The cactus in turn responds by creating a defensive structure(spines) that protect them from attack/intrusion. The theme of warrior of the desert is also reflected in this. This idea is reflected in dreams about fights for water/nature/industry. The Papago Indians drink Saguaro wine as a way of bringing rain during the dry season.

"Gained a lot of weight and looked grotesque in the mirror". Indians had been eating the fruit for about 3 weeks, could not be recognized because they were temporarily so corpulent. Provers described binging and

reduced appetite with weight loss in a similar pattern.

Experiences edginess and agitation/irritability/touchiness/meanness/impatience.

Opposite side: detachment and apathy about things that would normally have disturbed the provers. "I am even indifferent about indifference." In a positive way this manifested as feeling calmer, more balanced and

more grounded.

Forgetfulness and improved memory.

Recurrent: being awake and dreaming. Waking up and not know if they were asleep or awake. Hallucinations or bodily distortions, which predominantly reflected looked older. It is interesting to note how old Saguaro's

don't develop branches until they are at least 75 years old.

Usages of the Saguaro fruit was to make wine. The wine was used annually in important ceremonies where everyone became intoxicated. It has been reported that violence and the settlement of old vendettas would be

common at this time.

Cactus remedies: heart (prover felt a pulsing light in his cardiac arteries each time he took the remedy/had a coronary artery bypass in the past which left him with the feeling of being violated and intruded on/was healed

with the remedy/likened the feeling to nitroglycerine).

Papago: ritual on first arrived at camp/each person was supposed to take the first ripe fruit that he encountered, open it, extract some of its juicy red pulp, apply it to his heart, and say a prayer of thanks for having lived

another year.

Physical symptom: itching (often is the physical component of emotional edginess/recurrent during the proving). One prover had had itching successfully treated with Nat-m. in the past and recurred.

One strange/rare and peculiar symptom „As if eyes ventrally“.  

Swelling/headache/insomnia/cramping pains/numb. Binge eating in the evening + loss of appetite and weight during the day.

The saguaro is one of the largest of cacti. It has one of the largest biomasses of plants in the desert. A nickname for the saguaro is Desert Monarch or Desert Giant. Theme of smallness and tiny people came up for a

number of the provers.

The saguaro expands and contract greatly during the rainy season and shrinks dramatically during droughts, also caused by cold or freezing spells. This frequently creates a wavy motion and buckling on the surface of

the columns. (Anorexia). This expansion can happen fairly quickly during the rainy season. This may be related to the swelling which was a general theme in the proving.

 

Themes

Warrior of the Desert/Attack and Defense

The theme of attack and defense is typical of the cactus remedies.

The central idea from the proving is that I am being attacked and intruded on, but If I defend myself in the right way, I will not be hurt. Much of this took the form of sexual abuse. The area of intrusion is generally in the

home, the area that one generally feels safe and secure. When one is not protected, there are feelings of anxiety, edginess and fear.

It is interesting that several provers described intrusion coming from the upper l. hand corner. The saguaro has a great many animals living within its body (insects, birds, bats, rodents etc). There is a very popular children's

book in Arizona called Cactus Hotel which depicts the life of the cactus and all the animals that use it as their home. The above dream of having the whole animal kingdom living in the house is interesting in this regard.

There was also a recurrent theme of others depending on them. One dream depicts an encounter with a woodpecker (a main resident) which at first is quite benign but later turns into something sinister and anxiety provoking:

    Water

Another recurrent theme in the proving was that of water. The situation of the Saguaro cactus is that they provide one of the very few places in the desert where water is attainable. All other creatures of the desert need this

for survival and attempt to obtain this. The cactus in turn responds by creating a defensive structure(spines) that protect them from attack/intrusion. The theme of warrior of the desert is also reflected in this. This idea is

reflected in one of the provers dreams in which there was a war in which warriors are fighting for water. The dream goes on that some of the warriors are fighting for nature and some for industry. In another dream, a man is

being attacked by the mafia and chained to a pool. The reaction to this war often calls for violence and this was a recurring theme in the proving. The Papago Indians drink Saguaro wine as a way of bringing rain during the

dry season.

It is interesting that the Papago believe that water only comes to the desert when they drink the Saguaro wine and individual's sing to the creator in public religious ceremonies.

 

    Apathy/Indifference/Detachment vs. Edginess

    Hallucinations/Confusion

    Heart

    Itching

    Colossal

    Waving in and Waving Out

    Spiders and Snakes

    Deterioration/Aging

    Sexual Abuse

    Intrude/Stealing

    Deterioration/Dilapidation

    Poison

Family reunion was winding down at the cabin and I was outside and was to bike home; father had instructed my stepmother to go for the bird book because of an unusual woodpecker in the tree; I scared the bird away and

father got upset; the bird came back and we had a staring contest; the bright orange bird turned into a human; very strange eyes; he shook my hand and then he became friendly; turned into a bird again; my half sister then

scared the birds away and punched one; this brought in the evil; I was frightened and felt compelled to leave; I was confronted by evil in the form of fly by spirits; once inside we were safe but someone let in three men; one

was about to kill me so I stabbed him; the only way to get rid of the other two was to use our brains

A recurring theme in the proving was that of friendly characters/animals turning into those that are sinister/dark.

Like other cactus remedies, there was a focus on the heart in the proving. A prover felt a pulsing light in his cardiac arteries each time he took the remedy. He had a coronary artery bypass in the past which left him with the

feeling of being violated and intruded on. This was healed with the remedy.

A Papago camp ritual according to many authors occurred when the family first arrived at camp. Each person was supposed to take the first ripe fruit that he encountered, open it, extract some of its juicy red pulp, apply it to

his heart, and say a prayer of thanks for having lived another year.

Much of the deterioration noted in the proving occurred in the home. There was a feeling of no one else taking notice or responsibility about the mess/decline and that you are the only one who can handle it. There is anger

associated with this. The animals that utilize the saguaro cause destruction and deterioration of the tissue, sometimes resulting in the death of the cactus itself. Also, the saguaro can mend itself with the formation of hard

callouses, which is the reverse side of this.

 

Desert

Central Motion

The central motion of the proving was that of a gyroscope (= device for measuring or maintaining orientation). One prover described it as follows:

Irritable with people; wanted people away from me; sense of well being; thinking felt sharp and clear; could see things well laid out; felt possessed; felt crazy; mind was racing; talked fast; people could not wait to get away

from me in my environment; could not find center or get centered; feeling the need to get things done and accomplished; wanted to be by myself; rankled feeling; no one come and bother me as I have work to do; irritability;

feeling of great centeredness and being herself; things shifting in head and finally feeling balanced; feel welcoming to others; feeling of quiet joy and connection to everything; need to do and not be interrupted; have found

a balance point like a geographical place in my mind-at any time when I become aware of annoyance or feeling off balance, I can reach into my mind and touch the center and instantly feel balanced/connected like a gyroscope

that may wobble but then rights itself and spins smoothly; sense of well being/wholeness.

Central Motion and Core Sensation

The central motion of the proving was waving in and waving out. This was accompanied by the sensation of tremendous swelling and expansion vs constriction and contraction. The saguaro is one of the largest of cacti.

It has one of the largest biomasses of plants in the desert. A nickname for the saguaro is Desert Monarch or Desert Giant. It is interesting that the theme of smallness and tiny people came up for a number of the provers.

The saguaro expands and contract greatly during the rainy season and shrinks dramatically during droughts. This frequently creates a wavy motion and buckling on the surface of the columns. This waving motion is also

caused by cold or freezing spells. This expansion can happen fairly quickly during the rainy season. This may be related to the swelling which was a general theme in the proving.

Described by one prover as the following:

My ankles were glued together and I felt the sensation that my body was moving rhythmically to swim and be mobile; mostly my torso; I felt like I was possessed by a dolphin.

One prover had the dream "Gained a lot of weight and looked grotesque in the mirror". The saguaro gains a great deal of water weight during the rainy season. Niethammer in 1974 recounted a story of a priest in the 17th

century to the effect that after the Indians had been eating the fruit for about three weeks, the priest could not recognize many of his friends because they were temporarily so corpulent. Several provers described binging

and reduced appetite with weight loss in a similar pattern.

 

Other peculiar sensations included the following:

    Within seconds my coronary arteries effloresced like a light sensation; not painful; like an extra energy

    Eyes were being pulled ventrally

    Childhood memories of snowstorms and watching TV with parents-feeling of safety/security/warm fuzzy

 

Other Themes

There was a recurring theme of confusing being awake with dreaming. Provers would wake up and not know if they were asleep or awake. One prover also thought that he had written down his dreams at night, but this

had been a dream. This also manifested in the form of hallucinations or bodily distortions, which predominantly reflected looked older. It is interesting to note how old Saguaro's get-for example they don't develop

branches until they are at least 75 years old.

One of the primary usages of the Saguaro fruit was to make wine. The wine was used annually in important ceremonies where everyone became intoxicated. It has been reported that violence and the settlement of old

vendettas would be common at this time. Underhill describes a ritual speech during the Papago rain making ceremony after drinking the saguaro wine in the rain house:

“I told you to drink it . . . You swallowed it . . . Beautifully drunk, beautifully dizzy, you didn't keep from me the good talk, your good dreams, good songs . . . Come now . . . And drink the water that I have rotted”.

Focus on the heart in the proving. A prover who felt a pulsing light in his cardiac arteries each time he took the remedy. He had a coronary artery bypass in the past which left him with the feeling of being violated and

intruded on. This was healed with the remedy. He likened the feeling to nitroglycerine.

A Papago camp ritual according to many authors occurred when the family first arrived at camp. Each person was supposed to take the first ripe fruit that he encountered, open it, extract some of its juicy red pulp,

apply it to his heart, and say a prayer of thanks for having lived another year.

Spiders and snakes were recurring themes in the dreams. All of them were described as poisonous. There is a story of the Tohono O'odham of a boy neglected by his mother who sank into a tarantula hole and emerged

as a saguaro.

General Characteristics

The saguaro is one of the largest of cacti. It has one of the largest biomasses of plants in the desert. A nickname for the saguaro is Desert Monarch or Desert Giant. It is interesting that the theme of smallness and tiny

people came up for a number of the provers.

Physical Characteristics

Physical themes: swelling, headaches, insomnia, cramping pains, and numbness.

Two provers experienced binge eating in the evening associated with loss of appetite and weight during the day. One prover experienced severe epigastric abdominal pain. Forgetfulness and its opposite improved

memory were also noted. One strange/rare and peculiar symptom was the sensation of the eyes being pulled ventrally.

Physical symptom: itching. Often itching is the physical component that reflects emotional edginess, which was a recurrent them during the proving. One prover had a history of itching that had been successfully

treated with Nat-m. in the past, but recurred when she took a single 30C dosage of the remedy.

Mental and Emotional Characteristics

Many of the provers experienced edginess and agitation. This also manifested in irritability, touchiness, meanness and impatience. The opposite side was even stronger. There was a recurrent sense of detachment and

apathy about things that would normally have disturbed the provers. One prover quipped: "I am even indifferent about indifference." In a positive way this manifested as feeling calmer, more balanced and more

grounded.

Wirkung: typhoid

 

 

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